What was with question 13 for the multi choice……. the chick had a pacemaker but couldnt get a method that had an injection
so that ruled out
MRI (magnetic cant interfere with the pacemaker)
FMRI (same as MRI)
PET (cause it requires an injection)
the only answer left was CT, which only studies STRUCTURE not function, which is what they wanted to study!
oh im not sure. maybe CT also required an injection. i think that question was silly it should of been that she didnt have a pacemaker and then the answer would have been FMRI
i think it was almost the same as the past exams i didnt see anything new
Yes! I totally agree with Michael- short answer was much better than the multiple choice section.
I think question 13 had no possible answer..I was so confused. PET requires glucose, CT requires iodine and MRI and fMRI cannot be used due to the magnetic fields… How odd.
Was that last multiple choice question in that section- respect for persons or justice?!
The exam was too easy in my opinion relative to previous exams. I do share the same confusion on Q13 however, as it clearly says NO injection, pacemaker and function so therefore all options are ruled out. UNLESS of course it was being really pedantic about INVASIVE as it DOES say invasive injection and PET injection isn’t considered invasive so it may have been PET but still, it was a very poorly written question. Sans that the short answer was basic and straightforward, with minimal variation on past years.
hey guys,
it said the researcher wanted to avoid injecting a substance into Zoe in Q13.
i think avoid would be a critical term in terms of the question, as they wanted to see brain function, which ruled out CT and MRI and the pacemaker would rule out fMRI.
i thought the multiple choice was more complex than other years, but the short answer was easier than past papers.
I think Q13 was trying to play with your mind; it said she had a pacemaker so obviously she couldn’t take any of the MRIs; and then it mentioned she needed a scan on brain FUNCTION so that ruled out CT…leaving PET as the only option – the “avoid injection” was just to play with your mind…as it didn’t say she was physically unable to have injections of radioactive glucose, rather she wanted to avoid it. My logic was that while she would rather not have an injection, PET was the most appropriate as it was the only brain function research method that would not kill her.
it had to be respects to person because the experiementer was not looking at both sides of the experiement for example weighing up the pro’s and the con’s he was simple trying to make all the areas known to the foreign participants which therefore leaves you with the answer of respects to person!!!
The question about the FMRI and the PET scan said that they wanted to avoid the injection so it could of been PET… but then it said which would be the best option ( something or other) so it leaves u with FMRI even though the old women had a pacemaker… thats what i put anyway only because they said they wanted to avoid the injection so the ony other option for function could be? (FMRI)
I agree with Juzz that was the EXACT reasoning i used.. as it turns out though radioative glucose can be taken in the form of a pill but it is fairly rare! As for the fact that a radio active glucose injection isn’t invasive, it doesnt get more invasive than an injection of a radio active substance… yea I’m fairly confident it was respect for persons
Its stupid to say that the exam was easy.. with psychology theu arent always looking for plain right or wrong answers, they look for the most correct and in depth answer which takes the marks not just if you know the answer but how well you do.. Anyway thats how i see it. Its fair to say the exam was fair i think
oh no…i wrote justice instead of respect for persons!!
..this is my reason….well by telling/interpreting the foreign participants the content of the research doesn’t it ensure that they understand the steps, aim of the experiment? I think this kinda claims justice because its their right to know so?..
I’m not sure did I explain myself properly…and I’m not sure am I right!
oo i would also like to add…I was* going to choose respect for persons…
But wasn’t it necessary* (FOR ALL RESEARCHERS)to translate the contents?(if their participants were foreign to English?) So isn’t it NOT respect for persons…?
apparently they scrapped that questoin, as there was no correct answer. so they’re either going to give everyone who answerd it a mark or no one a mark. becasue non invasive = not ct or pet and then she had a pace maker so definatly not fmri or mri as she would be killed so yes. they messed up!
have they really scrapped that question becuase i thought that there were no possibly right answers to that question, does anyone know where we can get the results from early? like the right answers
I thought, the exam was not hard at all. I’m not arrogant or anything to say that, I haven’t got my result yet but as I did it, I could tell if you do enough practice and stress up a little bit for motivation to study! you’d find it not as tricky as you thought honestly!
One more thing, I’m an oversea student, psychological terms and definitions are big problems for me!
hey guys for the question of the woman with the pacemaker…PET was the correect answer as i have the psychology book with me and under PET subheading it says it is injected in the blood stream BUT SOMETIMES TAKEN ORALLY…this mean PET is the correct answer…i actually put FMRI
The answer was justice, not respect for persons. My year level coordinator is a psych assessor, and she said the answer was justice.
Also, I unfortunately chose CT scan for questions 13. I looked at pacemaker, then looked at non invasive and that left me with CT scan. I didn’t see the function/structure part.
I stuffed up the Broca’s and Wernicke’s area question. For some odd reason I misread the question. Fantastic!
My teacher told us that VCAA confirmed that question 13 WILL be take off the exam, also with the Muloler Lyer Illusion…apparently there are 52 ways of describing it, so VCAA have decide that as long as you explained the illusion you WILL get either 2 or 3 marks.
Question 13 is purely a mistake of the VCAA exam writers.
Yes, they make mistakes too!
As others have said, it’s getting scrapped or we all get a mark.
But in the exam I was like WHAAAT and spent ages on it thinking it was a super trick question.
But I did love the Psych exam, so much better than Chemistry
are you sure question 13 would be taken out?
FMRI has a difference between MRI–> MRI cannot be used with magnetic material (e.g. pins) and FMRI cannot be used on FERROmagnetic material e.g. PACEMAKER. man, im really confused..
and to get a A+, I heard for last years mid year exam, it was out of 80 and to get a ‘A+’ you’ll need to get 71/72. (btw I’m not very sure so yeah)
Hi guys.
Firstly, question 13 was a doosy, but not impossible. yes, fMRI would rip out the grannys pacemaker, and (as would seem at first glance) PET requires an injection… or does it? if you look in your textbook you’ll find a bit that states the glucose needed for PET CAN be administered orally, not just by injection.
Second point, got my results, B+, but what does that mean? is it under the new system where C is where your ment to be at and B is 6 months ahead, or is it the old system where B is pretty average?
Would really like an answer to this, as the VCAA website is about as usefull as one tennis player when it comes to finding answers to important questions.
The bloke who published the last answers is wrong….dont listen to him. It can’t be CT scan as it doesnt measure function….CT only gives you slices of the brain…..therfore the answer must be FMRI as it is weaker than MRI..therefore a pacemaker shouldnt be a problem
Um, Ricky? Did you not pay attention in class at all? FMRI are a LOT stronger than MRI; and the ‘M’ in MRI stands for ‘magnetic’. There is no way someone with a pacemaker can get an MRI done without the thing being ripped out of their chest. Unless it was an MRI of their knee but that’s beside the point. The answer IS PET because radioactive glucose can be taken orally as my teacher has explained to us; however not all schools were taught that as it wasn’t really part of the course so the question has been scrapped.
If anyone finds out were the answers are published, please let me know!
Both of the two above me are wrong, if they had have paid attention to everyone else they would have realised that NO ANSWER WAS CORRECT, it was a mistake from the VCAA (because they are human also and have made many mistakes in previous years).
Did anyone get screwed over with the ‘perceptual set’ S.A question?
Just about everyone at my school came out scratching their heads too.
I later found the answer. I got one part right lol
I got a C+ which I was ok with considering I’d only crammed the day and night before, as I focussed my attention on my biology exam all weekend because my biol teacher is an incompitant fossil who doesn’t teach us crap!
Jude | Jun 10, 2009 | Reply
It was actually harder than the past years, in my opinion. But i still think i went well… i hope
jen | Jun 10, 2009 | Reply
What was with question 13 for the multi choice……. the chick had a pacemaker but couldnt get a method that had an injection
so that ruled out
MRI (magnetic cant interfere with the pacemaker)
FMRI (same as MRI)
PET (cause it requires an injection)
the only answer left was CT, which only studies STRUCTURE not function, which is what they wanted to study!
Jedd | Jun 10, 2009 | Reply
hmm yeah i thought the same thing, and doesn’t CT require an injection of dye?
Hmm not sure.
Did you think it was harder than the past years?
jen | Jun 10, 2009 | Reply
oh im not sure. maybe CT also required an injection. i think that question was silly it should of been that she didnt have a pacemaker and then the answer would have been FMRI
i think it was almost the same as the past exams i didnt see anything new
Michael | Jun 10, 2009 | Reply
the multiple choice in my opinion required alot of logic thought but the written bit was fairly decent
Hannah | Jun 10, 2009 | Reply
Hey Guys,
Yes! I totally agree with Michael- short answer was much better than the multiple choice section.
I think question 13 had no possible answer..I was so confused. PET requires glucose, CT requires iodine and MRI and fMRI cannot be used due to the magnetic fields… How odd.
Was that last multiple choice question in that section- respect for persons or justice?!
Daniel | Jun 10, 2009 | Reply
The exam was too easy in my opinion relative to previous exams. I do share the same confusion on Q13 however, as it clearly says NO injection, pacemaker and function so therefore all options are ruled out. UNLESS of course it was being really pedantic about INVASIVE as it DOES say invasive injection and PET injection isn’t considered invasive so it may have been PET but still, it was a very poorly written question. Sans that the short answer was basic and straightforward, with minimal variation on past years.
jen | Jun 10, 2009 | Reply
for the last question i said respect for persons..but im not quite sure now you say it
gus | Jun 10, 2009 | Reply
hey guys,
it said the researcher wanted to avoid injecting a substance into Zoe in Q13.
i think avoid would be a critical term in terms of the question, as they wanted to see brain function, which ruled out CT and MRI and the pacemaker would rule out fMRI.
i thought the multiple choice was more complex than other years, but the short answer was easier than past papers.
me | Jun 11, 2009 | Reply
hey…i want to see answers, if u know them can u plz put them up!
THE EXAM WAS GOOD!!;)
juzz | Jun 11, 2009 | Reply
I think Q13 was trying to play with your mind; it said she had a pacemaker so obviously she couldn’t take any of the MRIs; and then it mentioned she needed a scan on brain FUNCTION so that ruled out CT…leaving PET as the only option – the “avoid injection” was just to play with your mind…as it didn’t say she was physically unable to have injections of radioactive glucose, rather she wanted to avoid it. My logic was that while she would rather not have an injection, PET was the most appropriate as it was the only brain function research method that would not kill her.
sam | Jun 11, 2009 | Reply
the answers are on the net now and the answer to question 13 was B or D
cato | Jun 11, 2009 | Reply
what was with those names aswell, plipio and proffessor latina?
ben | Jun 13, 2009 | Reply
it had to be respects to person because the experiementer was not looking at both sides of the experiement for example weighing up the pro’s and the con’s he was simple trying to make all the areas known to the foreign participants which therefore leaves you with the answer of respects to person!!!
ben | Jun 13, 2009 | Reply
The question about the FMRI and the PET scan said that they wanted to avoid the injection so it could of been PET… but then it said which would be the best option ( something or other) so it leaves u with FMRI even though the old women had a pacemaker… thats what i put anyway only because they said they wanted to avoid the injection so the ony other option for function could be? (FMRI)
jen | Jun 13, 2009 | Reply
where abouts can i find the answers?
Sam | Jun 13, 2009 | Reply
I agree with Juzz that was the EXACT reasoning i used.. as it turns out though radioative glucose can be taken in the form of a pill but it is fairly rare! As for the fact that a radio active glucose injection isn’t invasive, it doesnt get more invasive than an injection of a radio active substance… yea I’m fairly confident it was respect for persons
Its stupid to say that the exam was easy.. with psychology theu arent always looking for plain right or wrong answers, they look for the most correct and in depth answer which takes the marks not just if you know the answer but how well you do.. Anyway thats how i see it. Its fair to say the exam was fair i think
some asian girl ^^ | Jun 14, 2009 | Reply
oh no…i wrote justice instead of respect for persons!!
..this is my reason….well by telling/interpreting the foreign participants the content of the research doesn’t it ensure that they understand the steps, aim of the experiment? I think this kinda claims justice because its their right to know so?..
I’m not sure did I explain myself properly…and I’m not sure am I right!
T_T so don’t listen to me blabber.
some asian girl ^^ | Jun 14, 2009 | Reply
oo i would also like to add…I was* going to choose respect for persons…
But wasn’t it necessary* (FOR ALL RESEARCHERS)to translate the contents?(if their participants were foreign to English?) So isn’t it NOT respect for persons…?
Sorry I’m really not sure.
Gref | Jun 15, 2009 | Reply
Where can i find the answers on the internet?
Jack | Jun 15, 2009 | Reply
apparently they scrapped that questoin, as there was no correct answer. so they’re either going to give everyone who answerd it a mark or no one a mark. becasue non invasive = not ct or pet and then she had a pace maker so definatly not fmri or mri as she would be killed so yes. they messed up!
G | Jun 15, 2009 | Reply
have they really scrapped that question becuase i thought that there were no possibly right answers to that question, does anyone know where we can get the results from early? like the right answers
Misa | Jun 15, 2009 | Reply
I thought, the exam was not hard at all. I’m not arrogant or anything to say that, I haven’t got my result yet but as I did it, I could tell if you do enough practice and stress up a little bit for motivation to study! you’d find it not as tricky as you thought honestly!
One more thing, I’m an oversea student, psychological terms and definitions are big problems for me!
Mina | Jun 15, 2009 | Reply
hey guys for the question of the woman with the pacemaker…PET was the correect answer as i have the psychology book with me and under PET subheading it says it is injected in the blood stream BUT SOMETIMES TAKEN ORALLY…this mean PET is the correct answer…i actually put FMRI
Misa | Jun 15, 2009 | Reply
like MRI, fMRI cannot use for patients with pin makers
sarah | Jun 15, 2009 | Reply
The answer was justice, not respect for persons. My year level coordinator is a psych assessor, and she said the answer was justice.
Also, I unfortunately chose CT scan for questions 13. I looked at pacemaker, then looked at non invasive and that left me with CT scan. I didn’t see the function/structure part.
I stuffed up the Broca’s and Wernicke’s area question. For some odd reason I misread the question. Fantastic!
Rida | Jun 15, 2009 | Reply
OH MY GOD…i got that RIGHT…:D..!!
Nat | Jun 17, 2009 | Reply
for sure this years exam was harder than the last few, but its the last year in this study design so possibly vcaa were trying something new.
Rochelle | Jun 18, 2009 | Reply
My teacher told us that VCAA confirmed that question 13 WILL be take off the exam, also with the Muloler Lyer Illusion…apparently there are 52 ways of describing it, so VCAA have decide that as long as you explained the illusion you WILL get either 2 or 3 marks.
Sophie | Jun 21, 2009 | Reply
My teacher, who is one of the exam markers said there was no correct answer for mc q13 and therefore we all get the mark!
Shay | Jun 26, 2009 | Reply
Question 13 is purely a mistake of the VCAA exam writers.
Yes, they make mistakes too!
As others have said, it’s getting scrapped or we all get a mark.
But in the exam I was like WHAAAT and spent ages on it thinking it was a super trick question.
But I did love the Psych exam, so much better than Chemistry
James | Jul 3, 2009 | Reply
What score would you need to get an A+
Fiona | Jul 14, 2009 | Reply
are you sure question 13 would be taken out?
FMRI has a difference between MRI–> MRI cannot be used with magnetic material (e.g. pins) and FMRI cannot be used on FERROmagnetic material e.g. PACEMAKER. man, im really confused..
and to get a A+, I heard for last years mid year exam, it was out of 80 and to get a ‘A+’ you’ll need to get 71/72. (btw I’m not very sure so yeah)
Xanaan | Jul 25, 2009 | Reply
if q 13 is out then wohhooo and thanks god!! the exam was pretty ok alhamdullilah
psych girl | Jul 31, 2009 | Reply
where can i find the answers on the internet ?
:)
want to know soooo bad!
Jess | Aug 1, 2009 | Reply
The answer was PET as you can receieve the radioactive glucose in oral form
tessa | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
where do you get answers from???
Bernard Phillips | Aug 3, 2009 | Reply
Hi guys.
Firstly, question 13 was a doosy, but not impossible. yes, fMRI would rip out the grannys pacemaker, and (as would seem at first glance) PET requires an injection… or does it? if you look in your textbook you’ll find a bit that states the glucose needed for PET CAN be administered orally, not just by injection.
Second point, got my results, B+, but what does that mean? is it under the new system where C is where your ment to be at and B is 6 months ahead, or is it the old system where B is pretty average?
Would really like an answer to this, as the VCAA website is about as usefull as one tennis player when it comes to finding answers to important questions.
Ricky | Aug 4, 2009 | Reply
Hey
The bloke who published the last answers is wrong….dont listen to him. It can’t be CT scan as it doesnt measure function….CT only gives you slices of the brain…..therfore the answer must be FMRI as it is weaker than MRI..therefore a pacemaker shouldnt be a problem
Jess | Aug 5, 2009 | Reply
I am a psych teacher. So I would perhaps ask your teacher if you want answers
Juzz | Aug 6, 2009 | Reply
Um, Ricky? Did you not pay attention in class at all? FMRI are a LOT stronger than MRI; and the ‘M’ in MRI stands for ‘magnetic’. There is no way someone with a pacemaker can get an MRI done without the thing being ripped out of their chest. Unless it was an MRI of their knee but that’s beside the point. The answer IS PET because radioactive glucose can be taken orally as my teacher has explained to us; however not all schools were taught that as it wasn’t really part of the course so the question has been scrapped.
If anyone finds out were the answers are published, please let me know!
Smarter than these dudes. | Aug 6, 2009 | Reply
Hey
Both of the two above me are wrong, if they had have paid attention to everyone else they would have realised that NO ANSWER WAS CORRECT, it was a mistake from the VCAA (because they are human also and have made many mistakes in previous years).
Sheesh!
P.S loves an A+ for the exam! Stoked as.
Aishy | Aug 9, 2009 | Reply
I got a B in my exams and i have bout a unit 3 sac average of about B+. Is my chance to get a study score of 40+ not possible??
kate | Aug 9, 2009 | Reply
to answer james..
you needed 158 out of 180 for an a+
Danielle | Sep 1, 2009 | Reply
Did anyone get screwed over with the ‘perceptual set’ S.A question?
Just about everyone at my school came out scratching their heads too.
I later found the answer. I got one part right lol
I got a C+ which I was ok with considering I’d only crammed the day and night before, as I focussed my attention on my biology exam all weekend because my biol teacher is an incompitant fossil who doesn’t teach us crap!
Danielle | Sep 1, 2009 | Reply
Also, I too thought q13 was a bit dodgy! Glad I wasn’t the only one to spot the contradiction
maka | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
does anyone know any website where we can see the correct answers for this test. I heard there are websites that do that.