By now you should have finished the Unit 3 VCE Psychology exam for 2010. What did you think of the paper? What was hard? What was easy? How do you think you went?
Let us know your thoughts and comments below (please keep them clean!)…cheers
I thought it was pretty alright, there were alot of questions that were on the multiple choice which were on previous examinations. Though some of the short answer questions were a bit tricky, they were do-able for the time frame we were given. Overall, for the last exam of this study design I found it good. Not too hard not too easy.
lolol raw potatoes. i actually thought it wasnt so bad. there were a coupla questions i got jammed up on. that one with the soldier – the first of the two thresholds (3rd part of qsn). i hate research methods cauz i suck at it, and i got stuck on the participant characteristic question – i didnt get the wording of it, i got placebo effect is that right? -_-. also that damn last question on brain & NS chapter…wtf?? that karen touching that hot glass of coffee….that material related to last years course; i had no idea so i wrote about the contributions of parietal lobe, frontal lobe/motor cortex, sensory receptors on the skin of her hands, and stuff like that. overall, it was good but was a tad disappointed with how i coped in some of those questions.
that was an awesome exam. so glad they made it easy this year. I studied all of that stuff in great detail and was laughing through almost every question
wasnt too hard, only one i didnt really know was the visual sensation/ perception. was it perception has cognition??also position of camera at ames room was it to get = retinal images + no binocular cues?
question 2 was stupid
corpus callosum isn’t in the cerebral cortex, eliminating D.
and it doesn’t transfer info, it allows for the transferring, eliminating A.
also is stuff in the left visual field processed in the right occipital lobe only?
hard exam this year compared to previous years
It made all of the four cortical lobes of my brain ache.
Upon a first reading I thought it was fairly simple, however upon actually asnwering them, a lot of the questions were either awkwardly phrased or had serveral meaning I thought that fit (there was a question about the corpus callosum).
There wasn’t anything there that I didn’t know, but it would have been a lot easier if the questions were phrased in a way that could be understood. I guess that’s just the VCAA’s was of differentiating between the higher level students.
Consciousness was fairly simple, however, visual perception was difficult.
I disagree with saying visual perception was the hard part, i thought the brain and nervous system was easily the hardest as i spent almost 40 minutes just on that. especially that last question as well as the sympathetic role in the exhaustion stage
What was the answer to the gas stage 3 & sympathetic nervous system question? that was the worst question! was it non active? or over active?
the exam was hard this year, thank god multi choice was easy!
The psych exam wasnt hard in generaly but the multiple choice was tricky. I really didnt like the coffee question, i thought it would be an reflex arc. In general it wasnt bad but compared to last years exam it was difficult.
Miran…answer was A.
Stimuli in the left visual field are processed in both hemispheres.
I agree with Jess that the GAS stage 3 & sympathetic nervous system question was the hardest. Wasn’t sure how to approach it but using the knowledge that I had that the sympathetic nervous system is active throughout the GAS, I just talked about its activity and its maintenance of the body.
The position of the camera is important because the camera must be placed at the peephole to prohibit the use of binocular depth cues (our strongest depth cues) – that is, only allows for monocular vision. About the father – did he just cast a smaller retinal image as the left/right (I can’t remember which) corner is twice the distance away from the viewer?
Also, for the exam multi choice about the level of consciousness the boy was in – was it NWC or controlled? Silly thing to find difficult, but found it difficult nonetheless.
Overall good exam. Pretty decent.
the answer to the stage 3 sympathetic question is…
Exhaustion is the third and final stage in the GAS model. At this point, all of the body’s resources are eventually depleted and the body is unable to maintain normal function. The initial autonomic nervous system symptoms may reappear (sweating, raised heart rate etc.). If stage three is extended, long term damage may result as the capacity of glands, especially the adrenal gland, and the immune system is exhausted and function is impaired resulting in decompensation.
The result can manifest itself in obvious illnesses such as ulcers, depression, diabetes, trouble with the digestive system or even cardiovascular problems, along with other mental illnesses.
About the coffee question, I don’t think that it’s a reflex arc because she didn’t let go of the coffee straight away – she consciously determined how hot is was before placing it down. The key idea in the question was that she used her right hand, hence, sensory neurons from the sensory receptors in her right hand would have sent information to the primary somatosensory cortex in her left parietal lobe, where the temperature of the coffee would have been processed. Motor neurons from the primary motor cortex in her left frontal lobe would have then sent information to the muscles in her right hand in order for her hand to place the cup of coffee back down.
I guess I found it okay. I knew majority of the study design but I still had a bit of trouble with answering the short answer questions because of the way they were written. Brain and the Nervous System was definately the hardest for me. I spent around 30-35 minutes on that section. Visual perception was okay, as was States of Consciousness.
Overall, it was decent, but I didnt feel entirely confident with how I was approaching the questions even though I knew the content. It was definately harder than all the past exams.
On a side note – I want night vision goggles. Haha
I thought it was a lot more difficult than other years!
Again, i thought the same thing with the corpus callosum multiple choice because the lectures and my teacher have always hammered into us that we can’t say it ‘transfers’, if you use the word ‘transfers’ in a short answer it would be considered wrong! so annoying!
i chose selection D, hoping that it was ‘in’ the ceberal cortex as the ends of it would connect to the brain, hence in a little bit of the outer layor.
a lot of my class mates were also unsure of the question regarding ‘what is stress’, or something along those lines, because it is not always something perceived as threatening, as good things can cause stress, instead we wondered if it were something which activated the GAS
what did everyone put down for the stress q im pretty sure it was the resistance stage b/c she could still work after having the flu, but the role of the sympathetic NS in stage 3 i had no clue, i guessed saying that it still maintains the F/F response as stressor still present but probably wrong
also @ Osama and Miram did the 2nd q have alternative A as allowing or actually transferring the info, i cant remember i just rememebr i eliminated others giving me A..
Reading through this forum is so frustrating because I’m realising all the questions i probably got wrong
I agree with everyone about the corpus callosum transferring info, def the best option.
With the sensation/perception, i think that perception is cognitive whilt sensation isnt. the other viable option was that perception can only occur when senstion has taken place, but they asked for a DIFFERENCE and that’s not a distinc difference.
With the karen and the hot cup question, i didn’t mention which hem+lobe the info would be processed in only mentioned efferent and afferent nerves hopefully that’s sufficient?
I said that the doctor lady waas in Resistance not exhaustion when she caught the flu, and also suffered with teh symp NS in stage 3 question .
what about the sleep talking question? It said what stage but i said it was REM and NREM.
I’m pretty sure the left visual field is processing in the right occipital lobe only.
I found it hard working out what they were actually asking in the question, like in the coffee one, did they want neurons or brain parts?
the one where the little girl could say the work accident but not meaningfully describe it.
did you say Broca’s or Wernicke’s?
and the one with the boy who fell asleep for short periods of time
did you say REM or hypnogotic. i said hypnogotic because according to my text ‘it may last a minute or to and involve jerky movements’ but the teacher for the other class at my school said REM sleep and hes an experienced examiner… but you cant move during REM and its very difficult to wake from REM.
With the second half of the Stress question, im not sure if its right but i talked about how in exhaustion the sympathetic nervous system attempts to inrease physiological arousal and reactivate the fight flight response, however these attempts are not always successful as her resources to combat or resist the stressor are depleted.
not sure about the stressor q, but i think we were wrong and the answer was the GAS one…
with the parasymp/symp, we got it wrong, i checked the textbook, and it says theat they are both always active, however one dominates the other at any given time
the coffee one asked specifically about sensory nerves and the brains role
i said the same for sleep talking, i think it may have been a trick question and that we were right.
did anyone else find all the questions (including most of the mc) very obscure and asking about very random things?
for instance using a camera at the peephole and the absolute and differential thesholds, in a way that made them seem like they were both differential. figured it out eventually, but very mean
also wondering, what did people say about the girl who could say accident, but couldnt meaningfully describe the accident?
i said wernicke’s but was it broca’s??
On the bonus… it seems that everyone found the exam quite hard. however that means that we wont be scaled down as harshly and if you made silly mistakes they matter less
Did anyone fall for that trick in the short answer brain and nervous system. asking what stage she was in when she FIRST got the flu? i think most of the state fell for it and wrote exhaustion. I did too
the ‘accident’ question would definately have to be Broca’s!
Broca enables correct pronunciation and fluent speech, meaning she could articulate. But damage to the Wernicke’s area means your fluency is maintained, but the ability to make sense, or project the intended meaning, is controlled by the Wernicke’s, enabling correct words to be located from the memory to make sense.
I agree with emma, obviously a lot of people found it hard, it just annoys me that people who didn’t study, or don’t know their stuff, probably didn’t overthink the multiple choice too much, choosing the most obvious, and probably right, answers.
Also guys, don’t forget that usually there’s a few questions where there ends up being more than 1 answer.
Did anyone else notice that one question didn’t have a correct answer at all, with reference to the stages of sleep?
Awake, stage 1, stage 2, stage 3, stage 4, rem, stage 3, stage 2, STAGE 1, REM
STAGE 1 DOES NOT REPEAT AGAIN, but none of the other answers were even somewhat right.
I also said resistance as the stage for the doc, but the camera doesn’t have binocular depth cues. It’s a camera, not the human eye. Therefore, the position of the camera is essential as it is the location at which the room appears to be of equal, rectangular proportions.
I found the exam quite different compared to the previous years ones, and found the MC section a lot harder then those on the past exams.
In relation to people wondering if the cerebral cortex was wrong because of the use of the word ‘transfer’.
Teachers and lecturers say you’re not allowed to use the word ‘send’, so transfer is a correct option.
It can’t have been the other options as it also doesn’t ‘connect’ the hemispheres as that implies that it is holding them together.
But i agree with everyone, all the questions were asked in really obscure ways and there were so many multiple choice questions where i thought there easily could have been two options.
left visual field is processed in BOTH hemispheres. look at any of the past papers where they ask the same question in multi choice. it’s always both.
also, didn’t think of the camera position, good answer.
also, it was wernicke’s area that was damaged. wernicke’s is responsible for meaningful speech. damage to wernicke’s causes speech which is fluent but incoherent.
i was thinking because wernickes damage people before can produce a word said to them again, they can say the word but that doesnt mean they know what theyre talking about.
and it said something about them being able to meaningfully describe it. the thing thats niggling at me is i know they used the word accident in there.
hmmmm
also, just remembered about this question, the one about the dark cinema
what was the answer
i said absolute threshold as we hadnt learned about any of the other answers so therefore they shouldnt be right.
my reasoning was that the absolute threshold would change going from outside to inside as the conditions changed, and that the amount of electromagnetic energy entering her eye would change with dialation and contraction of her pupils…
what do you guys think?
dammit, i just realized i probably got a whole large bunch of short answers wrong reading from this forum!!!!!! damn, its those little tricks and LITTLE HIDDEN KEY words in the questions that make all the difference. tips to us dudes for unit 4, RTFQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ Jane Left Visual field is processed in right hem only left visual field projects on the right half of each eye going to right hem. Check you textbook again
reading this thread gets me angry
i hate vcaa
when do we get our results? do we get it as a percentage?
also do we actually get the results as in what we got right/wrong ??
@ jane
left visual field is only processed in the right occipital lobe, the questions of past exams were “where are the images from the left eye processed” in the case of the whole eye it is both occipital lobes, it was just another of their tricks.
i thought the multiple choice was much harder than previous years where i have been sure of almost all of my answers, where as this year i wasn’t as sure.
in the short answer they will probably end up accepting a few things for a lot of the questions because they were worded so obscurely
can anyone tell me what the answer to the cinema multi choice question was? i said A but i wasnt sure. also the question on sympathetic ns in exhaustion stage was hard. what did u guys think?
yeahhhh
it was left visual field, cause its only both if it says the whole eye.
it was wernickes area damaged because they could still pronounce it due to brocas.
the hot coffee question wasnt reflex arc because she took a few seconds to put it back down therefore the information was processed by her brain.
the soldier question was absolute then differential.
i thought it was exhaustion because she didnt go to work for a week afterwards but ohhh well.
also what about that multiple choice question that was like visual perception/cognition?
@ whoever has spoken about it. i checked the exam answers
it was definately resistance stage as she recovered from her flu in about 5 days or something.
it was also damage to wernicke’s area. if u noticed, the question said MILD damage to the left hemisphere. damage to brocas area causes difficulty in articulation, the key word being difficulty, they are still able to pronounce words but it is hard, but wernicke’s is for understanding of language and grammatically correct sentences.
@ elizabeth Many people at my school aswell as me thought resistance because she could still go back to work after flu got flu as a result or cortisol blah blah..fighting initial stressor blah blah
Unsure about lot of my answers and i am usually confident about my answers from all past papers. Questions were worded so obscureley!!! What was the answer to the question on Sleep talking??? I said occurds during NREM sleep (allstages) but can also occur duing REM
The question about sleeptalking said what stage would this most likely occur.. the answer is stage 3 or stage 4 as NREM is not a stage it is a type of sleep
yeah agreed found this tough!
for the exam multi choice about the level of consciousness the boy was in – was it NWC or controlled consciousness? and what was the answer for the third part of night vision goggle question??
for the exam multi choice about the level of consciousness the boy was in – was it NWC or controlled? and also what was the answer for the third part of night vision goggles?? how to measure the max distance of movement??
What was the answer to question 20. (the differeneces between perception and sensation, 11. (the autonomic nervous system) and 7. (alzheimers).
Hard exam but fair
@ JAY its NWC, no such thing as controlled consciousness but controlled process one which requires greater mental effect, selective attention and is a serial process.
coming out of the exam i felt really annoyed because i know i stuffed some up and had to rush a bit at the end because i had to really think hard about all the questions. realtively ok but difficult than all the other years. i think i slightly underestimated it.
I went in the exam feeling confident, and came out wanting to cry xD
Was it just me, or was that exam harder than the previous years?
Do we get our results on Wednesday?
@claudia, i totally agree. i was like ‘woo, psych, easy’ and was a bit surprised because i found it harder than the past exam papers ive done. we get results in august, and unless you apply for your statement of marks, you just receive your Grade (eg. B+), either in the mail or from your school.
our teachers said it was one of the hardest exams they had ever seen and that a few of the multi chioce where worded really bad i kinda agree after doing heaps of practice exams. and i really hope the question where it asked what GAS stage she was in when she got the flu was resistence
just wondering,how many “physiological symptoms” we need to write in the whole paper? cuz I am afraid I wrote “psychological symptoms” instead.Do we need to write physiolgical symptoms in sleep deprivation?
also, for the questions above,I think:
wernicke’s area; left visual field–process to right hemisphere only;cerebral context—transfer information; last question—stage of resistence,I have done one past paper saying,if you only get a cold or “minor symptom”,is stage 2;however,if you have cancer or heart attack,etc,is stage 3;
Definately found it the hardest out of all the years. i did all the past exams for study leading up to this years and this was definately one of the hardest out of all the years although it was still reasonable just a few tricky questions thats all.
i put wernickes too for the accident multiple choice question and so did most of my friends only one put brocas but that was really hard because brocas are able to produce concrete words such as accident if damaged although the question was based on meaningful speech which is wernickes although the word accident isn’t really all that meaningful so i dunno????
i put stage of resistance and also with the participant characteristics i said coordination skills as participants should be matched up on coordination levels to minimise extraneous variables. does anyone know if thats right? also what did everyone put for the 2nd part of the absolute threshold question?
@rhiannon yes that is correct coordination of skills is a valid variable that needed to be matched up. for the 2nd part of absolute threshold question i wrote the the person waring the goggles needs to view people moving from a certain distance away and continue moving until he can notice movement at least 50% of the time.
OMG!!! last years exams were a breeze compared to this years exam. the questions really reminded me of neap trial exam papers and it was frustrating coming out of the exam. Although i did expect it to be difficult since last years exam was quite simple. Guess we’ll just have to wait and see the results.
this exam was very difficult considering what the past VCAA exams were like
to clear everything up
1. during stage 3 of GAS countershock re-occurs and you get the symptoms that you get during countershock again (i didnt write this but it is correct)
2. things in the left visual field are processed by the right hemisphere only. Past VCAA exams has asked what hemisphere things from the left EYE are processed in and the answer is both (this might be why people are getting confused)
3. The question on pronouncing “accident” was wernickes not brocas
4. Im not sure wherether the stage was resistance or exhaustion, i put resistance, does anyone know is thats right?
keep posting comments people
let me know if you think im wrong…
exam was not that hard. just a few question had two anwers that were similiar so might have heaps of tricks in the exam. wat does everone else think they got
ummm no visual information presented in the left visual feild is received in the right occipital lobe. it is only recieved in both if visual information is presented to both the right and left visual feild.
wrong! it was exhaustion, as she was unable to work and was still getting sick which meant her immune system was failing and making her body suseptible to illness or disease
no you got it right, as in the resistance stage, you are fine as well as your body but in the exhaustion stage is when you start to get sick as you immune system is weakening.
It was so hard. I did like 10 practice exams, this one was the worst :S
Las years was soooo easy though
But I have the bes teacher ever, so im confident
was so happy with the exam for my sake, as i didnt find it too difficult. however this is a disadvantage because generally most people would have done well. marks downs are gonna be tough.
@Trevor
I totally agree with you! Last year was so much easier! It took me like half an hour to do it. I forgot all about it until I read this post =( I am really upset now. Psy Students from the eastern suburds prob did like really well and we all sucked ….
that was my exact same dilemma.
i ended up with D only because the second part of the statement was enabling communication btwn the hemispheres, but A was also talking about transferring its just that it doesnt DO the transferring. i got out and everyone said they put A. bummer.
i got a B+ – kinda disappointing again, i missed out on some real easy pickings on that paper i bet. its gonna be a long road back into contention now, but i shouldnt hang my head down too low, its a good base for my psych year, ill just keep progressing and keep treading on the papers for unit 4 and i should be there. but for now, getting that prestigious study score of 40 on it looks about dead now. im hoping to god a 39 or something close to 40 now.
ones who got around C or C+ range, i think the problem is reading the question carefully. ask ur teacher for a few tips – its all out the key words in the question, and u gotta answer it in the way u are addressed to do so. For example of a name is used in the question, u gotta mention or address that name in ur answer. eg. List 2 symptoms that David could be experiencing in an altered state of consciousness. Answer: in an altered state of consciousness “DAVID” could be experiencing – distorted time perception, – lethargy…etc… otherwise u can lose a mark or 2.
@ Claudia; lol that kinda restated the question and i expected a scientific answer (or close to it ), but o well good enough. i accept that girls are awesome this time round
does anyone know how many people get an A+ in psych? coz last year in history i got three A+’s and only got a 39. so they must be handing them out willy nilly.
apparently the entire state did really crap this year; average to get A+ for entire state was 77/90 compared to the 84/90 last year. Sigh, my B+ must have been something like 57/90 lol – how terrible
I scraped an A+ (78/90)
But this exam was defs difficult.
I was just wondering, I’ve read of people getting A+ for their SACS and exams and only get a 39-41 :S
How the hell do you get a 50?!
raw potatoes | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
dont you hate it when evil witches shrink your Dad? I know I do
chuck bass 007 | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
Much harder compared to previous exams!!! Any thoughts?
Mclovin | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
It’s the worst. Especially when you’ve got hot coffee in your hand.
Cathy | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
I thought it was pretty alright, there were alot of questions that were on the multiple choice which were on previous examinations. Though some of the short answer questions were a bit tricky, they were do-able for the time frame we were given. Overall, for the last exam of this study design I found it good. Not too hard not too easy.
anotherdude2 | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
lolol raw potatoes. i actually thought it wasnt so bad. there were a coupla questions i got jammed up on. that one with the soldier – the first of the two thresholds (3rd part of qsn). i hate research methods cauz i suck at it, and i got stuck on the participant characteristic question – i didnt get the wording of it, i got placebo effect is that right? -_-. also that damn last question on brain & NS chapter…wtf?? that karen touching that hot glass of coffee….that material related to last years course; i had no idea so i wrote about the contributions of parietal lobe, frontal lobe/motor cortex, sensory receptors on the skin of her hands, and stuff like that. overall, it was good but was a tad disappointed with how i coped in some of those questions.
oliver | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
that was an awesome exam. so glad they made it easy this year. I studied all of that stuff in great detail and was laughing through almost every question
mike | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
wasnt too hard, only one i didnt really know was the visual sensation/ perception. was it perception has cognition??also position of camera at ames room was it to get = retinal images + no binocular cues?
ashlee | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
hi the exam was good
i studied heaps of stuff and not even half of it was on there
but i think i did well
miran | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
question 2 was stupid
corpus callosum isn’t in the cerebral cortex, eliminating D.
and it doesn’t transfer info, it allows for the transferring, eliminating A.
also is stuff in the left visual field processed in the right occipital lobe only?
hard exam this year compared to previous years
mike | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
@ miran if not A then what was it?
andrew | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
anyone know the answers to the mc
Loz | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
It made all of the four cortical lobes of my brain ache.
Upon a first reading I thought it was fairly simple, however upon actually asnwering them, a lot of the questions were either awkwardly phrased or had serveral meaning I thought that fit (there was a question about the corpus callosum).
There wasn’t anything there that I didn’t know, but it would have been a lot easier if the questions were phrased in a way that could be understood. I guess that’s just the VCAA’s was of differentiating between the higher level students.
Consciousness was fairly simple, however, visual perception was difficult.
greg stump | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
i know, i could hardly see the paper without my night vision goggles
greg stump | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
i knoww, i could hardly see the paper without my night vision goggles
john | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
I disagree with saying visual perception was the hard part, i thought the brain and nervous system was easily the hardest as i spent almost 40 minutes just on that. especially that last question as well as the sympathetic role in the exhaustion stage
dan | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
yeah what was the answer to the thing about the camera and the peephole?
Osama | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
“and it doesn’t transfer info, it allows for the transferring”
I’m pretty sure it was A, Miran
jess | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
What was the answer to the gas stage 3 & sympathetic nervous system question? that was the worst question! was it non active? or over active?
the exam was hard this year, thank god multi choice was easy!
Eren | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
The psych exam wasnt hard in generaly but the multiple choice was tricky. I really didnt like the coffee question, i thought it would be an reflex arc. In general it wasnt bad but compared to last years exam it was difficult.
jane | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
Miran…answer was A.
Stimuli in the left visual field are processed in both hemispheres.
I agree with Jess that the GAS stage 3 & sympathetic nervous system question was the hardest. Wasn’t sure how to approach it but using the knowledge that I had that the sympathetic nervous system is active throughout the GAS, I just talked about its activity and its maintenance of the body.
The position of the camera is important because the camera must be placed at the peephole to prohibit the use of binocular depth cues (our strongest depth cues) – that is, only allows for monocular vision. About the father – did he just cast a smaller retinal image as the left/right (I can’t remember which) corner is twice the distance away from the viewer?
Also, for the exam multi choice about the level of consciousness the boy was in – was it NWC or controlled? Silly thing to find difficult, but found it difficult nonetheless.
Overall good exam. Pretty decent.
smartie | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
the answer to the stage 3 sympathetic question is…
Exhaustion is the third and final stage in the GAS model. At this point, all of the body’s resources are eventually depleted and the body is unable to maintain normal function. The initial autonomic nervous system symptoms may reappear (sweating, raised heart rate etc.). If stage three is extended, long term damage may result as the capacity of glands, especially the adrenal gland, and the immune system is exhausted and function is impaired resulting in decompensation.
The result can manifest itself in obvious illnesses such as ulcers, depression, diabetes, trouble with the digestive system or even cardiovascular problems, along with other mental illnesses.
jane | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
About the coffee question, I don’t think that it’s a reflex arc because she didn’t let go of the coffee straight away – she consciously determined how hot is was before placing it down. The key idea in the question was that she used her right hand, hence, sensory neurons from the sensory receptors in her right hand would have sent information to the primary somatosensory cortex in her left parietal lobe, where the temperature of the coffee would have been processed. Motor neurons from the primary motor cortex in her left frontal lobe would have then sent information to the muscles in her right hand in order for her hand to place the cup of coffee back down.
Kent | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
Yeah i didnt like the exam- the coffee question as well as a few sketchy MC Q’s
miran | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
well it was A, except i remember in the lecture they kept saying how it doesn’t transfer it allows so i was confused when i read it.
okay exam i guess
Kate | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
I guess I found it okay. I knew majority of the study design but I still had a bit of trouble with answering the short answer questions because of the way they were written. Brain and the Nervous System was definately the hardest for me. I spent around 30-35 minutes on that section. Visual perception was okay, as was States of Consciousness.
Overall, it was decent, but I didnt feel entirely confident with how I was approaching the questions even though I knew the content. It was definately harder than all the past exams.
On a side note – I want night vision goggles. Haha
psych | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
I thought it was a lot more difficult than other years!
Again, i thought the same thing with the corpus callosum multiple choice because the lectures and my teacher have always hammered into us that we can’t say it ‘transfers’, if you use the word ‘transfers’ in a short answer it would be considered wrong! so annoying!
i chose selection D, hoping that it was ‘in’ the ceberal cortex as the ends of it would connect to the brain, hence in a little bit of the outer layor.
a lot of my class mates were also unsure of the question regarding ‘what is stress’, or something along those lines, because it is not always something perceived as threatening, as good things can cause stress, instead we wondered if it were something which activated the GAS
Kent | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
“On a side note – I want night vision goggles. Haha” Who doesnt!
Yes, both MC and shrot answer for the brain and ns were much harder.
fred | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
i had seen soooooo many of those questions on similar exams. like the rat and the man thats a classic dono y they asked that
mike | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
what did everyone put down for the stress q im pretty sure it was the resistance stage b/c she could still work after having the flu, but the role of the sympathetic NS in stage 3 i had no clue, i guessed saying that it still maintains the F/F response as stressor still present but probably wrong
also @ Osama and Miram did the 2nd q have alternative A as allowing or actually transferring the info, i cant remember i just rememebr i eliminated others giving me A..
miran | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
yeh i thought resistance but everyone else said exhaustion.
don’t think it said allowing, but i guess A was the most correct.
mike | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
@ miran what was the visual perception / sensation difference one? i bet its resistance tho the stress q
miran | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
i thought perception is cognitive and sensation isn’t.
mike | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
@ miran yea same are we right?
mike | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
@ psych i wouldn’t think the corpus callosum is “in” the cerebral cortex..nah
what do others think?
miran | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
hope so, i guess we’ll see in a few months
oh and btw is left visual field right hemisphere only?
mike | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
@ Miran, left visual field in right hem only yeh
Loo | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
Reading through this forum is so frustrating because I’m realising all the questions i probably got wrong
only mentioned efferent and afferent nerves hopefully that’s sufficient?
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I agree with everyone about the corpus callosum transferring info, def the best option.
With the sensation/perception, i think that perception is cognitive whilt sensation isnt. the other viable option was that perception can only occur when senstion has taken place, but they asked for a DIFFERENCE and that’s not a distinc difference.
With the karen and the hot cup question, i didn’t mention which hem+lobe the info would be processed in
I said that the doctor lady waas in Resistance not exhaustion when she caught the flu, and also suffered with teh symp NS in stage 3 question
mike | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
can the sympathetic NS and Parasympathetic NS be active at the same time?? i said they cant, to a MC q on it not sure couldn’t remember
teresa | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
The multiple choice was quite easy,
the short answer was quite difficult.
The page bout ethics confused me, ” participant characteristics” :S
This exam would of have to be the hardest exam ever made by the VCAA
miran | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
my last question is what did people put for what is a stressor?
i said anything that is perceived as threatening, wasn’t sure if that was correct
kelly | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
what about the sleep talking question? It said what stage but i said it was REM and NREM.
I’m pretty sure the left visual field is processing in the right occipital lobe only.
I found it hard working out what they were actually asking in the question, like in the coffee one, did they want neurons or brain parts?
aaron | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
i feel the exact same about the paper!
aaron | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
omg thank god it was right hemipshere only! i read the comments above and they said both hemispheres!
psychomology | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
with the multiple choice
the one where the little girl could say the work accident but not meaningfully describe it.
did you say Broca’s or Wernicke’s?
and the one with the boy who fell asleep for short periods of time
did you say REM or hypnogotic. i said hypnogotic because according to my text ‘it may last a minute or to and involve jerky movements’ but the teacher for the other class at my school said REM sleep and hes an experienced examiner… but you cant move during REM and its very difficult to wake from REM.
With the second half of the Stress question, im not sure if its right but i talked about how in exhaustion the sympathetic nervous system attempts to inrease physiological arousal and reactivate the fight flight response, however these attempts are not always successful as her resources to combat or resist the stressor are depleted.
emma | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
hey mike, i did all the same stuff as you.
not sure about the stressor q, but i think we were wrong and the answer was the GAS one…
with the parasymp/symp, we got it wrong, i checked the textbook, and it says theat they are both always active, however one dominates the other at any given time
the coffee one asked specifically about sensory nerves and the brains role
i said the same for sleep talking, i think it may have been a trick question and that we were right.
did anyone else find all the questions (including most of the mc) very obscure and asking about very random things?
for instance using a camera at the peephole and the absolute and differential thesholds, in a way that made them seem like they were both differential. figured it out eventually, but very mean
also wondering, what did people say about the girl who could say accident, but couldnt meaningfully describe the accident?
i said wernicke’s but was it broca’s??
thanks
emma | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
On the bonus… it seems that everyone found the exam quite hard. however that means that we wont be scaled down as harshly and if you made silly mistakes they matter less
so i suppose its a positive?
Jones | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
Did anyone fall for that trick in the short answer brain and nervous system. asking what stage she was in when she FIRST got the flu? i think most of the state fell for it and wrote exhaustion. I did too
psych | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
the ‘accident’ question would definately have to be Broca’s!
Broca enables correct pronunciation and fluent speech, meaning she could articulate. But damage to the Wernicke’s area means your fluency is maintained, but the ability to make sense, or project the intended meaning, is controlled by the Wernicke’s, enabling correct words to be located from the memory to make sense.
I agree with emma, obviously a lot of people found it hard, it just annoys me that people who didn’t study, or don’t know their stuff, probably didn’t overthink the multiple choice too much, choosing the most obvious, and probably right, answers.
Also guys, don’t forget that usually there’s a few questions where there ends up being more than 1 answer.
Did anyone else notice that one question didn’t have a correct answer at all, with reference to the stages of sleep?
Awake, stage 1, stage 2, stage 3, stage 4, rem, stage 3, stage 2, STAGE 1, REM
STAGE 1 DOES NOT REPEAT AGAIN, but none of the other answers were even somewhat right.
I also said resistance as the stage for the doc, but the camera doesn’t have binocular depth cues. It’s a camera, not the human eye. Therefore, the position of the camera is essential as it is the location at which the room appears to be of equal, rectangular proportions.
Brit | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
I found the exam quite different compared to the previous years ones, and found the MC section a lot harder then those on the past exams.
In relation to people wondering if the cerebral cortex was wrong because of the use of the word ‘transfer’.
Teachers and lecturers say you’re not allowed to use the word ‘send’, so transfer is a correct option.
It can’t have been the other options as it also doesn’t ‘connect’ the hemispheres as that implies that it is holding them together.
But i agree with everyone, all the questions were asked in really obscure ways and there were so many multiple choice questions where i thought there easily could have been two options.
But seems we all found it hard, which is a bonus.
jane | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
left visual field is processed in BOTH hemispheres. look at any of the past papers where they ask the same question in multi choice. it’s always both.
also, didn’t think of the camera position, good answer.
also, it was wernicke’s area that was damaged. wernicke’s is responsible for meaningful speech. damage to wernicke’s causes speech which is fluent but incoherent.
emma | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
with the accident one
i was thinking because wernickes damage people before can produce a word said to them again, they can say the word but that doesnt mean they know what theyre talking about.
and it said something about them being able to meaningfully describe it. the thing thats niggling at me is i know they used the word accident in there.
hmmmm
also, just remembered about this question, the one about the dark cinema
what was the answer
i said absolute threshold as we hadnt learned about any of the other answers so therefore they shouldnt be right.
my reasoning was that the absolute threshold would change going from outside to inside as the conditions changed, and that the amount of electromagnetic energy entering her eye would change with dialation and contraction of her pupils…
what do you guys think?
emma | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
oh an psych, there was a correct answer
it said awake, stage 1, 2, 3, 4, 3, 2, 1, REM
as it goes to the last stage, then progresses back up to one before going into REM
anotherdude2 | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
dammit, i just realized i probably got a whole large bunch of short answers wrong reading from this forum!!!!!! damn, its those little tricks and LITTLE HIDDEN KEY words in the questions that make all the difference. tips to us dudes for unit 4, RTFQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
assface | Jun 9, 2010 | Reply
what was the answer to mc1 got confused between frontal lobe or cerebral cortex
bin | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
cerebral cortex is Q1 as it contains 3/4 of the neurons in the brain
kelly | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
it was the right occiptal lobe only. past exams have asked about the left eye going to both hemispheres, this asked about the left VISUAL FIELD.
I thought it was only exhaustion when you get the flu? as thats when the bodys resources are depleted
mike | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
@ Jane Left Visual field is processed in right hem only left visual field projects on the right half of each eye going to right hem. Check you textbook again
tassy | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
reading this thread gets me angry
i hate vcaa
when do we get our results? do we get it as a percentage?
also do we actually get the results as in what we got right/wrong ??
sophie | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
@ jane
left visual field is only processed in the right occipital lobe, the questions of past exams were “where are the images from the left eye processed” in the case of the whole eye it is both occipital lobes, it was just another of their tricks.
i thought the multiple choice was much harder than previous years where i have been sure of almost all of my answers, where as this year i wasn’t as sure.
in the short answer they will probably end up accepting a few things for a lot of the questions because they were worded so obscurely
kelly | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
I agree with sophie. they will have to except more than one answer for some of the short answer. and it was definately only the right occipital lobe
Sean | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
can anyone tell me what the answer to the cinema multi choice question was? i said A but i wasnt sure. also the question on sympathetic ns in exhaustion stage was hard. what did u guys think?
elizabeth | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
yeahhhh
it was left visual field, cause its only both if it says the whole eye.
it was wernickes area damaged because they could still pronounce it due to brocas.
the hot coffee question wasnt reflex arc because she took a few seconds to put it back down therefore the information was processed by her brain.
the soldier question was absolute then differential.
i thought it was exhaustion because she didnt go to work for a week afterwards but ohhh well.
also what about that multiple choice question that was like visual perception/cognition?
elizabeth | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
also it was cerebral cortex for the first multiple choice question cause it makes up 3/4 of the brains neurons.
fred | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
@ whoever has spoken about it. i checked the exam answers
it was definately resistance stage as she recovered from her flu in about 5 days or something.
it was also damage to wernicke’s area. if u noticed, the question said MILD damage to the left hemisphere. damage to brocas area causes difficulty in articulation, the key word being difficulty, they are still able to pronounce words but it is hard, but wernicke’s is for understanding of language and grammatically correct sentences.
fred | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
that short answer question about visual constancy was tough
harry white | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
does anyone know where to find out the multiple choice answers?? so we can compare our answers to them?
mike | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
@ elizabeth Many people at my school aswell as me thought resistance because she could still go back to work after flu got flu as a result or cortisol blah blah..fighting initial stressor blah blah
@ harry white i think in august you get a letter
Bart | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
Really difficult paper!!!
Unsure about lot of my answers and i am usually confident about my answers from all past papers. Questions were worded so obscureley!!! What was the answer to the question on Sleep talking??? I said occurds during NREM sleep (allstages) but can also occur duing REM
ash | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
The question about sleeptalking said what stage would this most likely occur.. the answer is stage 3 or stage 4 as NREM is not a stage it is a type of sleep
mike | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
@ ash, sleeptalking occurs in both NREM and REM sleep its also a common sleep phenomenon
jay | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
yeah agreed found this tough!
for the exam multi choice about the level of consciousness the boy was in – was it NWC or controlled consciousness? and what was the answer for the third part of night vision goggle question??
jay | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
for the exam multi choice about the level of consciousness the boy was in – was it NWC or controlled? and also what was the answer for the third part of night vision goggles?? how to measure the max distance of movement??
Funny! | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
What was the answer to question 20. (the differeneces between perception and sensation, 11. (the autonomic nervous system) and 7. (alzheimers).
Hard exam but fair
mike | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
@ JAY its NWC, no such thing as controlled consciousness but controlled process one which requires greater mental effect, selective attention and is a serial process.
lauren | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
I have been doing so many past papers and multiple choice has never been that hard! Very frustating. Also, @fred, where did you find the answers?
kira | Jun 10, 2010 | Reply
coming out of the exam i felt really annoyed because i know i stuffed some up and had to rush a bit at the end because i had to really think hard about all the questions. realtively ok but difficult than all the other years. i think i slightly underestimated it.
Claudia | Jun 11, 2010 | Reply
I went in the exam feeling confident, and came out wanting to cry xD
Was it just me, or was that exam harder than the previous years?
Do we get our results on Wednesday?
Loo | Jun 11, 2010 | Reply
@claudia, i totally agree. i was like ‘woo, psych, easy’ and was a bit surprised because i found it harder than the past exam papers ive done. we get results in august, and unless you apply for your statement of marks, you just receive your Grade (eg. B+), either in the mail or from your school.
Grace | Jun 11, 2010 | Reply
our teachers said it was one of the hardest exams they had ever seen and that a few of the multi chioce where worded really bad i kinda agree after doing heaps of practice exams. and i really hope the question where it asked what GAS stage she was in when she got the flu was resistence
Sean | Jun 11, 2010 | Reply
so was the stage exhaustion or resistance people?
elaine | Jun 11, 2010 | Reply
just wondering,how many “physiological symptoms” we need to write in the whole paper? cuz I am afraid I wrote “psychological symptoms” instead.Do we need to write physiolgical symptoms in sleep deprivation?
also, for the questions above,I think:
wernicke’s area; left visual field–process to right hemisphere only;cerebral context—transfer information; last question—stage of resistence,I have done one past paper saying,if you only get a cold or “minor symptom”,is stage 2;however,if you have cancer or heart attack,etc,is stage 3;
Mclovin | Jun 12, 2010 | Reply
@claudia, we don’t get our results till august…
rhiannon | Jun 12, 2010 | Reply
Definately found it the hardest out of all the years. i did all the past exams for study leading up to this years and this was definately one of the hardest out of all the years although it was still reasonable just a few tricky questions thats all.
i put wernickes too for the accident multiple choice question and so did most of my friends only one put brocas but that was really hard because brocas are able to produce concrete words such as accident if damaged although the question was based on meaningful speech which is wernickes although the word accident isn’t really all that meaningful so i dunno????
i put stage of resistance and also with the participant characteristics i said coordination skills as participants should be matched up on coordination levels to minimise extraneous variables. does anyone know if thats right? also what did everyone put for the 2nd part of the absolute threshold question?
rachel | Jun 12, 2010 | Reply
i had no idea for the last question on the night goggles scenario either! what’d everyone else write?
Claudia | Jun 12, 2010 | Reply
@Rachel, I wrote that it was the maximum distance at which soldiers could detect movement using the night goggles 50% of the time on average.
fred | Jun 12, 2010 | Reply
@rhiannon yes that is correct coordination of skills is a valid variable that needed to be matched up. for the 2nd part of absolute threshold question i wrote the the person waring the goggles needs to view people moving from a certain distance away and continue moving until he can notice movement at least 50% of the time.
sam | Jun 13, 2010 | Reply
OMG!!! last years exams were a breeze compared to this years exam. the questions really reminded me of neap trial exam papers and it was frustrating coming out of the exam. Although i did expect it to be difficult since last years exam was quite simple. Guess we’ll just have to wait and see the results.
psych_rocks | Jun 14, 2010 | Reply
this exam was very difficult considering what the past VCAA exams were like
to clear everything up
1. during stage 3 of GAS countershock re-occurs and you get the symptoms that you get during countershock again (i didnt write this but it is correct)
2. things in the left visual field are processed by the right hemisphere only. Past VCAA exams has asked what hemisphere things from the left EYE are processed in and the answer is both (this might be why people are getting confused)
3. The question on pronouncing “accident” was wernickes not brocas
4. Im not sure wherether the stage was resistance or exhaustion, i put resistance, does anyone know is thats right?
keep posting comments people
let me know if you think im wrong…
@ psych rocks | Jun 14, 2010 | Reply
@ psych rocks im pretty sure its resistance, if you want to get the exam and solutions head over to vcenotes forum those guys cant stop discussing it,
Andy | Jun 15, 2010 | Reply
exam was not that hard. just a few question had two anwers that were similiar so might have heaps of tricks in the exam. wat does everone else think they got
zoe | Jun 16, 2010 | Reply
this paper sucked
:(
stacey | Jun 16, 2010 | Reply
I loved the exam, it was on par with past exams and I was well-prepared for it!
Stacy | Jun 24, 2010 | Reply
ummm no visual information presented in the left visual feild is received in the right occipital lobe. it is only recieved in both if visual information is presented to both the right and left visual feild.
Stacy | Jun 24, 2010 | Reply
wrong! it was exhaustion, as she was unable to work and was still getting sick which meant her immune system was failing and making her body suseptible to illness or disease
Stacy | Jun 24, 2010 | Reply
no you got it right, as in the resistance stage, you are fine as well as your body but in the exhaustion stage is when you start to get sick as you immune system is weakening.
Trevor | Jul 2, 2010 | Reply
It was so hard. I did like 10 practice exams, this one was the worst :S
Las years was soooo easy though
But I have the bes teacher ever, so im confident
tierannn | Jul 2, 2010 | Reply
was so happy with the exam for my sake, as i didnt find it too difficult. however this is a disadvantage because generally most people would have done well. marks downs are gonna be tough.
Vivian | Jul 15, 2010 | Reply
@Trevor
I totally agree with you! Last year was so much easier! It took me like half an hour to do it. I forgot all about it until I read this post =( I am really upset now. Psy Students from the eastern suburds prob did like really well and we all sucked ….
sabrina | Jul 18, 2010 | Reply
that was my exact same dilemma.
i ended up with D only because the second part of the statement was enabling communication btwn the hemispheres, but A was also talking about transferring its just that it doesnt DO the transferring. i got out and everyone said they put A. bummer.
Claudia | Jul 27, 2010 | Reply
1 more week till we get our results people =D How are we feeling?
Tom | Aug 1, 2010 | Reply
Not too bad. How do we get our results though?
Janistopher | Aug 2, 2010 | Reply
I just want to wish everyone good luck with their results today!
Tell us all how you go
saly | Aug 2, 2010 | Reply
i dont know wat to thimk of my mark i got a c -is that good
darren | Aug 2, 2010 | Reply
I don’t get it… I got C+ and no one in my class got better and even the 6 who aced every SAC got 90-100% got C+.
Did I read wrong? In year 11 fast tracking, how does the marking work?
mclovin | Aug 2, 2010 | Reply
@Tom, we get them today from your school.
Claudia | Aug 2, 2010 | Reply
@ Darren, marking works the same even though you may be in year 11. I’m in year 11, and I’m so proud to say I got an A + =D
Candice | Aug 2, 2010 | Reply
I felt like I went really badly, but I got an A+!
I hate how that happens, all that worry about nothing.
anotherdude2 | Aug 2, 2010 | Reply
i got a B+ – kinda disappointing again, i missed out on some real easy pickings on that paper i bet. its gonna be a long road back into contention now, but i shouldnt hang my head down too low, its a good base for my psych year, ill just keep progressing and keep treading on the papers for unit 4 and i should be there. but for now, getting that prestigious study score of 40 on it looks about dead now. im hoping to god a 39 or something close to 40 now.
anotherdude2 | Aug 2, 2010 | Reply
ones who got around C or C+ range, i think the problem is reading the question carefully. ask ur teacher for a few tips – its all out the key words in the question, and u gotta answer it in the way u are addressed to do so. For example of a name is used in the question, u gotta mention or address that name in ur answer. eg. List 2 symptoms that David could be experiencing in an altered state of consciousness. Answer: in an altered state of consciousness “DAVID” could be experiencing – distorted time perception, – lethargy…etc… otherwise u can lose a mark or 2.
anotherdude2 | Aug 2, 2010 | Reply
why are girls so good at psych lol.
Claudia | Aug 3, 2010 | Reply
@ anotherdude2, cause we’re awesome
N | Aug 5, 2010 | Reply
I got an A. Can I still hope for 40+? )=
anotherdude2 | Aug 8, 2010 | Reply
@ Claudia; lol that kinda restated the question and i expected a scientific answer (or close to it
), but o well good enough. i accept that girls are awesome this time round
mike | Aug 10, 2010 | Reply
A+ here, probably low though, going to request statement of marks
lauren | Aug 10, 2010 | Reply
does anyone know how many people get an A+ in psych? coz last year in history i got three A+’s and only got a 39. so they must be handing them out willy nilly.
mike | Aug 12, 2010 | Reply
apparently willy nilly, like everyone i spoke to got an A+ as did i, apparently im not special…
Claudia | Aug 14, 2010 | Reply
You needed an 153/180 to get an A+. I think that’s about 85%
anotherdude2 | Aug 15, 2010 | Reply
apparently the entire state did really crap this year; average to get A+ for entire state was 77/90 compared to the 84/90 last year. Sigh, my B+ must have been something like 57/90 lol – how terrible
Tom | Aug 26, 2010 | Reply
Hey,
I scraped an A+ (78/90)
But this exam was defs difficult.
I was just wondering, I’ve read of people getting A+ for their SACS and exams and only get a 39-41 :S
How the hell do you get a 50?!